Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast

Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast

By A Travel Podcast

Out of Office is a travel podcast hosted by us, Ryan Davis and Kiernan Schmitt. From early childhood, we were each infected with a serious case of wanderlust (among other things.)

We define travel broadly, from local day trips to high-flyin' overseas adventures. Every episode, we dig into one topic—ranging from the serious to the silly, the practical to the outlandish—and give advice on how to get out there and explore the world.

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38:09 Ep. 224

Spain's Andalusian Costa del Sol

This week on Out Of Office, Ryan and Kiernan explore Spain's Costa del Sol, from Málaga's layered history of Roman and Moorish influence to Marbella's relaxed, sun-soaked Old Town. It's a quick dive into how this region became a global tourism hotspo

31:47 Ep. 223

Croatia's Plitvice Lakes National Park

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan takes us to one of Europe's greatest natural treasures: Plitvice Lake National Park in Croatia. Beautiful ice-blue lakes and gorgeous waterfalls are lined with easy-to-navigate boardwalks, and h

37:15 Ep. 222

National Park Match Making

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan recommends national parks for you to visit this summer, based on your preferences. Looking for zero crowds? Yearning for high-adrenaline action? Searching for variety? KPS unleashes his NPS knowle

49:02 Ep. 221

Sheltering In Place in Puerto Vallarta

On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan talks about sheltering in place in Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico during the 2026 Jalisco Operation.

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49:46 Ep. 220

Return Trip: Skiing for the Skeptical

This week, as Kiernan is skiing in real life and Ryan is freshly back from Puerto Vallarta, Out of Office: A Travel Podcast takes a return trip. The boys talk about their holiday breaks and discuss why ski trips are well worth the expense and the ste

40:27 Ep. 219

Most Memorable Food Experiences

This week on the pod, the boys talk about their favorite food experiences, from Peru to Dubai, with a little Eastern Shore of Maryland thrown in. Plus, learn which European cities are the most densely packed and perfect for traveling on foot.

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51:14 Ep. 218

New York Times Editor Stephen Hiltner on the "52 Places to Go in 2026"

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan chats with Stephen Hiltner, the New York Times editor in charge of this year's "52 Places to Go in 2026." Stephen walks us through this year's top picks and themes.

Here's what we cover in this e

54:18 Ep. 217

Your First Trip To Madrid

Ryan's guide to a perfect Madrid weekend, whether Salvador Dalí is your thing or not. Museums, parks, palaces, and the restaurants you should avoid, with plenty of great food instead.

Eat Here:

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46:11 Ep. 216

Christmas Spectacular Eight

 On this year's Christmas Spectacular episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan and Ryan hang up their socks and trade merry greetings. They discuss the official death of the Ugly Ornament Competition, the history of British Christmas crack

36:17 Ep. 215

Christmas Book Gift Recommendations 2025

This week, The Boys unwrap their favorite book picks for the holiday season — from globe-trotting history to wild presidential tales to the secret life of gas stations in the American South. They also dig into new national park surcharges for foreign

55:17 Ep. 214

Plymouth and the Mayflower II

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan talks to Richard Stone, author of "Project Mayflower."

Things we discussed on today's episode:

"Project Mayflower" book

https://bookshop.org/p/books/project-mayflower-building-and-saili

31:45 Ep. 213

Our Favorite Museum Heists

This week on the pod, the boys dive into their favorite museum heists, from Boston to Bogotá.

58:00 Ep. 212

Cruising Life with Royal Caribbean CEO Richard Fain

On this week's episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast." Kiernan talks to Richard Fain who served as CEO of Royal Caribbean for 33 years. Richard and his team oversaw—and essentially invented—the evolution of the cruise ship industry from a niche

43:44 Ep. 211

Theodore Roosevelt Sites

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys discuss historic homes and parks related to Kiernan's favorite President, Theodore Roosevelt. Brace yourselves for high adventure—assassins, deadly predators, and poor eyesight.

Things w

56:09 Ep. 210

6 Lesser Known Museums We Love

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan and Ryan travel the world over to share our favorite obscure museums. From Kuala Lumpur to Hartford, CT, we've got some surprises on this one.

Things we talk about on this week's episode:

50:18 Ep. 209

Detroit 201

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan loads up the family and heads to sunny Detroit. On our previous Detroit episode (Epi 153), we focused on the art and major tourist attractions, and this time around we hit up Detroit's surpr

39:01 Ep. 208

Guatapé, Colombia

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us to Guatapé, Colombia, land of big rocks and little zócalos, with an interview with tour guide Oscar Lujan. Plus, Kiernan takes us back to London for a preview of The Darkest Hour: The

01:07:40 Ep. 207

Festivals All Over The World

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan chats with Daniel Stables, the author of the new book "Fiesta", which chronicles Daniel's journey around the world attending parties, shindigs, ceremonies, gatherings, jamborees, and other allur

01:00:53 Ep. 206

Traveling with Children Part 1

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," a listener request! Kiernan offers tips, tricks, watch-outs, and must-dos when traveling with children. From gear to diversionary tactics, this is a must-listen for wanderlusty parents. 

Things we talk

50:40 Ep. 205

Souvenirs (Return Trip to Episode #8)

Ryan has been laid low with an exotic Mexican stomach bug, so this week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys are revisiting an old favorite: a friendly chat about how to pick souvenirs that will powerfully evoke memories without powerfully

46:40 Ep. 205

First Trip to Rome (Part 2)

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys continue their discussion of must-see museums, churches, and curiosities in Rome. Plus, you'll learn why cappuccinos are called that—and how they relate to rooms decorated with bones!

Things W

01:03:35 Ep. 204

Your First Trip To Paris

Kiernan takes us to the City of Lights—Paris!—for a magical trip from French Impressionists to the gargoyles of Notre Dame. Plus, how to read stained glass like comic books and take home some museum-quality taxidermy. And Ryan reflects on the passing

01:03:35 Ep. 204

Your First Trip To Paris

Kiernan takes us to the City of Lights—Paris!—for a magical trip from French Impressionists to the gargoyles of Notre Dame. Plus, how to read stained glass like comic books and take home some museum-quality taxidermy. And Ryan reflects on the passing

38:44 Ep. 203

Last-Min Summer Trip Planning

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys share their insider knowledge on how to lock down fantastic trips and deals even if you're a little late to the party. Hidden National Parks, secret city hideaways, and booking schemes await!

01:02:30 Ep. 202

Romania 101

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us to Romania—visiting Bucharest, Brașov, and Cluj-Napoca. Expect puppets, dictator mansions, and steampunk exhibits along the way.

Things We Talked About In Today's Episode: 

- Ceaușescu Man

01:15:25 Ep. 201

First Trip to Rome (Part 1)

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys treat the ancient aqueducts like a flume ride and splash right into Rome! Kiernan and Ryan talk Emperors, SPQR, why columns make the best decor, plus just a touch of new Pope speculation.

54:40 Ep. 200

Rick Steves is BACK for Episode 200!

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys celebrate the pod's 200th episode with travel icon Rick Steves! Kiernan chats with Rick about his latest book "On the Hippie Trail: Istanbul to Kathmandu and the Making of a Travel Writer

47:42 Ep. 199

Day Tripping from Santiago, Chile

On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us on three day trips from Santiago, Chile. First is Valparaíso, a coastal city known for its hills, historic funiculars, and street art. Then on to Valle de Colchagua, where wine tasting

47:59 Ep. 198

Krakow, Poland

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys head to Krakow, the intellectual heart of Poland. The city is home to beautiful churches, endless Pope John Paul II memorabilia, one of the oldest universities in the world (Copernicus atte

01:15:17 Ep. 197

Vatican City

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys Catholic out hard. In celebration of Lent, "Conclave," and a Catholic Jubilee Year, Kiernan talks us through the top sites to see in Vatican City. Rome is expecting 32M visitors this year,

52:18 Ep. 196

Berlin Museums

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan offers an overview of Berlin's museums, highlighting a few of his favorites, from the story of Hitler's rise and fall in an underground bunker to contemporary art in an old train station. Plus,

47:44 Ep. 195

NYT Editor Stephen Hiltner on the "52 Places to Go in 2025"

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan chats with Stephen Hiltner, the New York Times editor in charge of this year's "52 Places to Go in 2025." Stephen talks about some highlights from this year's selections, plus a few spots that did

53:39 Ep. 194

Santiago, Chile

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us south to Santiago, Chile, where he rides up a funicular and down a cable car to see the Virgin Mary. Plus, eating barnacles and flying out of Kafka Airport.

The Month In Digital (Ryan's Mar

49:46 Ep. 193

Skiing for the Skeptical

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys talk about their holiday breaks and discuss why ski trips are well-worth the expense and steep learning curve. Plus, Ryan has a onesie!

Here's what we cover in this episode:

NYT on European Ski

45:43 Ep. 192

Christmas Spectacular Seven

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys celebrate the season with discussions of the Immaculate Conception (it's not what Ryan thinks), an idea for holiday film commentaries yet to come, and the LAST Ugly Ornament contest. And another

54:21 Ep. 191

Monterrey, Mexico

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan recaps his recent trip to Monterrey, Mexico, covering highlights from the scenic River Walk to an interactive steel museum. He also shares a wild story about a run-in with a bribery-seeking cop in Pu

01:13:22 Ep. 190

Star Wars Museum Creator Steve Sansweet

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan talks with one of the greatest Star Wars collectors of all time: Steve Sansweet. Steve is the founder of Rancho Obi-Wan, the largest collection of Star Wars memorabilia in the world. Located in

01:15:13 Ep. 189

Being a Woman Airline Pilot in the 1980s with Stephanie Wallach

In this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan talks with Stephanie Wallach, one of the first women to break into the world of commercial aviation in America. Plus, Kiernan faces an unfortunate bout of gate lice.

Follow Along On Instagram:

42:54 Ep. 188

Graveyards

On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys embrace Spooktober by sharing their favorite graveyards. Plus, there's an update on friend of the pod Rick Steves' health and some Boston travel tips from Kiernan.

Things We Talked About I

46:01 Ep. 187

Secrets of a Modern-Day Travel Agent

In this episode, Ryan chats with Rory, a travel agent, about why people still use agents in 2024 and what it's like booking tickets for Andrew Scott. Plus, Kiernan talks about his new job as a Boston tour guide.

Things We Talked About In This Week's

48:42 Ep. 186

Travelin' Music

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan and Ryan chat about the deep connections between music and travel, including how a well-chosen song can be the ideal souvenir. They also dig into how much Ryan prepares for each episode. Plus, N

54:11 Ep. 185

El Salvador 101

This week on the pod, Ryan takes us to El Salvador, the land of volcanoes and Bitcoin. Hear about how he almost made it inside a beautiful church and his visit to Hermit Island. Plus, what was the miniature controversy at the Kentucky State Fair?

LA

01:02:09 Ep. 184

What is a Museum Hotel?

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan chats with Sarah Robbins, the COO of 21C Museum Hotels, a unique chain that combines modern art and comfortable accommodations. They talk through what it takes to run both a thriving hospitality

49:11 Ep. 183

The Hamptons

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys put on their finest yacht-wear and head to that enclave of the rich and famous, The Hamptons. Kiernan talks about what exactly "The Hamptons" refers to, logistics of exploring there as a touris

49:16 Ep. 182

"Secret Boston" with Kiernan Schmitt

This week Ryan welcomes his favorite author Kiernan Schmitt to talk about Kiernan's new guidebook "Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide." The book is a part of Jonglez Publishing's "Secret" series, which specializes in historical oddities and way off-the-

49:13 Ep. 181

First Trip to Chicago

Pop! Squish! Six! Uh-Oh! Cicero! Lipschitz! On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys talk about one of their favorite cities in the US: Chicago! Perched on Lake Michigan, the city offers stellar food, world-class art and natural

01:02:56 Ep. 180

Louisville, Kentucky

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys luxuriate in Louisville. From exploring hidden walkways to throwing back some bourbon—plus a quick stop to honor The Colonel—Ryan and Kiernan are officially Kentucky converts.

Things we

01:00:15 Ep. 179

Mammoth Cave National Park

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys put on their hard hats, light their lanterns, and head underground! Ryan and Kiernan are fresh back from Mammoth Cave National Park in Kentucky—the largest cave system in the world! They

01:09:38 Ep. 178

Richmond, Virginia (Return Trip)

 







This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," we revisit the November 2022 episode on Richmond, Virginia. It was Ryan and Kiernan's first overnight trip together (staying in separate hotels, of course)! They discuss museums, historic homes

50:57 Ep. 177

Flight Attendant Secrets

On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Ryan chats with "Jade," a flight attendant for a US airline, about the high-flying lifestyle and her biggest traveler pet peeves. Recorded in-person in Boston, Ryan also complains about the Logan

01:03:55 Ep. 176

Guatemala

On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan leads us through highlights from his trip to Guatemala—museums of Guatemala City, the pyramids (and howler monkeys!) of Tikal National Park, Antigua volcano hikes, and the part-devil/part-

36:39 Ep. 175

Traveling For Concerts (Taylor's version)

On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Ryan interviews Emma Weissmann on the boom of concert travel led by Taylor Swift. Plus, Kiernan endorses Mitt Romney again. 

Things we talk about in this week's episode:

Mitt Romney for Harvard

01:21:33 Ep. 174

Italian Cuisine Expert Fred Plotkin is BACK!

On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan digs in on regional Italian cuisine with one of the show's most interesting guests ever: opera and Italian cuisine expert Fred Plotkin. Fred talks us through some of the most popular and m

01:00:43 Ep. 173

Trip Planning With ChatGPT

On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan grades ChatGPT, evaluating its organization of three weekend getaways. Ryan shares tips on how to correctly leverage ChatGPT for travel plans. Introducing a fresh segment, "The Layover," R

51:00

Italian cuisine expert Fred Plotkin

On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan interviews one of the show's most interesting guests ever: opera and Italian cuisine expert Fred Plotkin. Decades ago, Fred published a breakout hit for intrepid eaters: his book "Italy fo

47:08 Ep. 171

Buenos Aires 101

On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Ryan ventures to Buenos Aires and shares his top neighborhood picks, eats too much steak, and embarks on a quest for elderly giraffes. Also, the boys debut a fresh segment called Nonsense Banter.

46:45 Ep. 170

James Beard Foundation Awards

In this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Ryan speaks with Dawn Padmore, Vice President of Awards at the James Beard Foundation, about the newly released list of semi-finalists and how the JBF discovers these exceptional restaurants acros

46:26 Ep. 169

NYT Travel Editor Amy Virshup Talks 52 Places In 2024

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan talks to Amy Virshup, the Travel Editor of the New York Times, about the paper's just released "52 Places to Visit in 2024" list. Plus, the boys launch a new segment called "The Judy Alert

47:49 Ep. 168

Stowe, Vermont

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys revisit their 2023 Travel New Year's Resolutions, set down some new ambitions, respond to some SCATHING listener reviews, and then relax into full New England Winter Mode with a city guid

44:43 Ep. 167

Christmas Spectacular Six

Grab your nog, it's the annual OOO Christmas Spectacular where the boys put aside their passports to focus on Santa's operational efficiencies and Sesame Street Christmas music.

Things we talk about in this week's episode:

Rankin Bass Musicals

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49:54 Ep. 166

Guayaquil, Ecuador

This week on the pod, join Ryan as he explores Guayaquil, Ecuador's largest city. Discover a Millennial Malecon, delve into miniature history museums teeming with pirates, and encounter feral iguanas. Also, stay tuned as Kiernan learns what a chamele

43:28 Ep. 165

Shakespeare Travel for the Big Folio 400

This week on the pod, Kiernan takes us to merry old England to visit sites related to William Shakespeare in honor of the 400th anniversary of the publication of the First Folio. Without the Folio, we would likely have lost half—HALF!—of Shakespeare'

53:28 Ep. 164

Bear Safety

On this week's episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan teaches Ryan how to protect himself from bears, and not the Fire Island-type.

National Parks Bear Safety

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Bear Spray

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50:27 Ep. 163

Ryan's Adventure In Bahía Solano, Colombia

Join Ryan as he recounts his recent adventure in Bahía Solano, Colombia. Encounter tall, handsome motorcycle drivers, majestic whales, Colombian Huck Finns, and baby turtles. Don't miss Ryan's many exhilarating experiences crossing multiple bridges.

58:09 Ep. 162

Rick Steves!

In honor of the "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast" 5 year anniversary, Kiernan landed a big interview: travel luminary Rick Steves. Rick has been THE dream guest for the boys since Day 1 and he's finally here in studio. Kiernan and Rick talk European

01:03:58 Ep. 161

National Park "Field Trip" with WashPo's Lillian Cunningham

On this week's episode, Kiernan talks to Washington Post journalist and podcaster Lillian Cunningham about her fantastic 5-episode National Park podcast "Field Trip." They talk about environmental disasters, how Native American communities relate to

45:13 Ep. 160

Watching Movies on Airplanes

On this week's episode, Kiernan and Ryan discuss their sometimes divergent philosophies of what makes a perfect airplane movie, the best thing to do with your screen if you're not using it, and why you don't want to sit in front of Ryan when he's eng

43:46 Ep. 159

Panama

On this week's episode, Ryan takes us between two oceans to Panama. Pirates, Teddy Roosevelt, and propeller planes: what more could you want in an episode?

Things we talk about in this week's episode:

https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Favorite-Novel-Lawr

59:20 Ep. 158

First Trip to New York

On this week's episode, the boys make recommendations for their favorite city in the world: New York City! NYC has SO MUCH to do it can be overwhelming, so let Kiernan and Ryan recommend their curated must-do list for a first trip to the city—museums

54:35 Ep. 157

Nashville (Return Trip)

This week, join the boys as they take you back to Nashville, Tennessee, reliving their December 2019 episode to the Music City.

Original Nashville Episode With All Links:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-61-nashville/

More Tennessee Conte

46:55 Ep. 156

America's Favorite Tourist Attractions, Based on Millions of Reviews

This week, the boys discuss the viral article on the most popular tourist attractions in the United States from HawaiianIslands.com with Brittany Mendez. Listen to find out why they both may end up in an asylum. 

Check out the article and maps here:

44:37 Ep. 155

The Case for Travel

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys debate a recent New Yorker article arguing against travel!

Things we talk about in this week's episode:

The Case Against Travel

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/the-

52:35 Ep. 153

Denali National Park

On this week's episode, Kiernan takes us deep into the wilds of Alaska to visit one of the greats: Denali National Park. He talks us through sled dog training, why "Mount McKinley" happened, and a set of skulls that tell the tale of an epic battle to

47:24 Ep. 153

Detroit 101

On this week's episode, Ryan and Kiernan head to Motor City to talk Motown, Coney dogs, and Diego Rivera. Ryan also sits down with Melody Baetens, The Detroit News' restaurant critic, to discuss her favorite dining spots and live music venues in town

52:00 Ep. 152

North America's 50 Best Bars

On this week's episode, Ryan sits down with Mark Sansom, Content Director for North America's 50 Best Bars, to talk about this year's 50 Best Bars in North America list. Plus, Ryan and Kiernan share some of their favorite bars that didn't make the li

56:18 Ep. 151

First Trip to London

On this week's episode, the boys right a major wrong: in over 150 episodes, they've never done an episode on London for first-timers! England's capital city can be overwhelming—world-class museums on every corner, historically significant architectur

43:30 Ep. 150

We Design an Airport

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the show turns 150! The boys reminisce, compare themselves to Sisyphus, and talk about their deep airport feelings.

01:00:30 Ep. 149

Quito, Ecuador

In this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," get ready for some high-altitude exploration as Ryan takes us to Quito! Learn about Simon Bolivar's significant other (who was both a lover and a fighter) and discover what qualifies as a tree wor

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